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Post by JigsawX on Apr 14, 2016 16:55:44 GMT -5
I'll say this: I'm not getting into an argument over this. I know where I stand, and it's clear where you stand.
I've gotten into hundreds of arguments with people supposedly on my own side within this last month alone, so getting into a debate with a conservative doesn't interest me whatsoever.
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Post by Jason on Apr 14, 2016 16:57:14 GMT -5
Here's consistency: When you sell out a crowd, perform for them. These hard-working people (which Bruce has wrote many a-song about) took time off work and threw thousands upon thousands of dollars at him for a two hour concert, and he canceled it because too many women in North Carolina are uncomfortable with this new transgender fad. Took money from customers for a promised service and canceled last minute. He thinks that is ok, though. Hypocrite liberal. Did anyone ask how women feel about this? Liberals must've forgotten how unequally women have been treated, right? Pick a side, liberals. Transgender is not a fad. It's a real problem that real people suffer with, and is made no easier by a society that chooses to pretend it's a fad, the same way some still thing being gay is. Now, I would hope that Springsteen would have refunded the money, and if not, that's what I'd be angry at him for, as that's rather shitty. But refusing to perform in a state because he doesn't agree with their decisions is 100% acceptable in my eyes. Why is it frowned upon to think that it's weird that Bruce Jenner, at 70 years old, decided he wanted to cut his dick off and wear dresses? Is it wrong for people to think that psychological help is a better way to go about it?
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Post by Jason on Apr 14, 2016 16:58:25 GMT -5
I've gotten into hundreds of arguments with people supposedly on my own side within this last month alone. The answer to that is the fact that liberalism is a walking double-standard, and both sides will clash eventually.
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Post by Jason on Apr 14, 2016 17:06:40 GMT -5
Fear tactics, and completely ignores the real people this issues actually affects. It isn't a fear tactic. Perverted men have been doing this for many years, long before this meteoric rise of "transgender equality" took place. It will become a problem.
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Post by J-Mac Attack on Apr 14, 2016 17:12:48 GMT -5
Transgender is not a fad. It's a real problem that real people suffer with, and is made no easier by a society that chooses to pretend it's a fad, the same way some still thing being gay is. Now, I would hope that Springsteen would have refunded the money, and if not, that's what I'd be angry at him for, as that's rather shitty. But refusing to perform in a state because he doesn't agree with their decisions is 100% acceptable in my eyes. Why is it frowned upon to think that it's weird that Bruce Jenner, at 70 years old, decided he wanted to cut his dick off and wear dresses? Is it wrong for people to think that psychological help is a better way to go about it? Actually, she started taking hormones over 25 years ago, but then backed out. Also, because of its high unacceptance rate, many would "change" later on in life because they wanted the married life and kids just like everyone else. I will agree that there is nothing wrong with offering counseling for those who feel like they are of a different gender. It is a drastic change, and sometimes people can make the wrong choices for themselves. However, there are those who never change their mind, and are glad they made the change to feel more comfortable in their own skin. They face a lot of scrutiny that you and I will hopefully never have to face.
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Post by J-Mac Attack on Apr 14, 2016 17:18:22 GMT -5
Fear tactics, and completely ignores the real people this issues actually affects. It isn't a fear tactic. Perverted men have been doing this for many years, long before this meteoric rise of "transgender equality" took place. It will become a problem. Just as many male pedos who abuse little boys in bathrooms, but can use the same restroom. I bet the same percentage of pedos who would act transgender to molest little girls, are the same as the males that molest boys. And if you think the dude in the meme would not raise eyebrows, you would have to be shitting me. I think the meme is funny, but only because it is ridiculous. Probably not its intent, though.
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Post by Jason on Apr 14, 2016 17:20:49 GMT -5
It isn't a fear tactic. Perverted men have been doing this for many years, long before this meteoric rise of "transgender equality" took place. It will become a problem. Just as many male pedos who abuse little boys in bathrooms, but can use the same restroom. I bet the same percentage of pedos who would act transgender to molest little girls, are the same as the males that molest boys. And if you think the dude in the meme would not raise eyebrows, you would have to be shitting me. I think the meme is funny, but only because it is ridiculous. Probably not its intent, though. Not true. Little boys are generally with their dads in the bathroom. Little girls are generally with their moms in the bathroom. Who is more defenseless?
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Post by J-Mac Attack on Apr 14, 2016 17:28:12 GMT -5
Just as many male pedos who abuse little boys in bathrooms, but can use the same restroom. I bet the same percentage of pedos who would act transgender to molest little girls, are the same as the males that molest boys. And if you think the dude in the meme would not raise eyebrows, you would have to be shitting me. I think the meme is funny, but only because it is ridiculous. Probably not its intent, though. Not true. Little boys are generally with their dads in the bathroom. Little girls are generally with their moms in the bathroom. Who is more defenseless? Lol! That still does not address the ridiculousness of that meme. The video camera and the D t-shirt was icing on the cake. It is a baseless fear, and the Conservatives are doing a damn good job at making people scared or the "he-she" being allowed to use the restroom as the gender they are living. I dunno, do you think gays should be made to use different bathrooms because they like the same gender? I mean, they do like the same gender! (My best at sarcasm, lol)
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Post by J-Mac Attack on Apr 14, 2016 17:34:19 GMT -5
Just as many male pedos who abuse little boys in bathrooms, but can use the same restroom. I bet the same percentage of pedos who would act transgender to molest little girls, are the same as the males that molest boys. And if you think the dude in the meme would not raise eyebrows, you would have to be shitting me. I think the meme is funny, but only because it is ridiculous. Probably not its intent, though. Not true. Little boys are generally with their dads in the bathroom. Little girls are generally with their moms in the bathroom. Who is more defenseless? Male pedos that like little boys have been using the same restroom for years. When I was like 8 years old, my "daddy" didn't go in the restroom with me just to watch out for "danger". That would be weird man. And I don't know many 8 year olds who know how to fight off adult males.
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Post by zombie on Apr 14, 2016 17:50:53 GMT -5
I've not noticed that at all, as in my experience, that's not true. If you blame the liberals for conservatives being angry, then blame conservatives for what Springsteen is pushing at his concerts. Be consistent. Here's consistency: When you sell out a crowd, perform for them. These hard-working people (which Bruce has wrote many a-song about) took time off work and threw thousands upon thousands of dollars at him for a two hour concert, and he canceled it because too many women in North Carolina are uncomfortable with this new transgender fad. Took money from customers for a promised service and canceled last minute. He thinks that is ok, though. Hypocrite liberal. Did anyone ask how women feel about this? Liberals must've forgotten how unequally women have been treated, right? Pick a side, liberals. he should at least give the money back to those that he cancelled on. if that didn't happen, then i can under the loss of respect. this isn't why he was booed at a concert though, is it? these are two different incidents, yes?
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Post by Jason on Apr 14, 2016 17:52:00 GMT -5
Yeah, two different incidents.
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Post by zombie on Apr 14, 2016 17:55:07 GMT -5
Fear tactics, and completely ignores the real people this issues actually affects. It isn't a fear tactic. Perverted men have been doing this for many years, long before this meteoric rise of "transgender equality" took place. It will become a problem. yeah, everything can be taken advantage of or misused. you don't punish everyone for the criminals and fucked up people.
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Post by Reign in Blood on Apr 14, 2016 17:56:17 GMT -5
Pretty soon going to the bathroom will be like flying, where we have to go through a scanner where it sees what we're packing before you can enter. Non-transgendered Asian men who just want to use the men's bathroom are going to be screwed.
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Post by Dream on Apr 14, 2016 18:00:26 GMT -5
Just as many male pedos who abuse little boys in bathrooms, but can use the same restroom. I bet the same percentage of pedos who would act transgender to molest little girls, are the same as the males that molest boys. And if you think the dude in the meme would not raise eyebrows, you would have to be shitting me. I think the meme is funny, but only because it is ridiculous. Probably not its intent, though. Not true. Little boys are generally with their dads in the bathroom. Little girls are generally with their moms in the bathroom. Who is more defenseless?the little girl who was born with male DNA and now has to use the restroom, dressed as a girl because that's what gender she identifies with, because she happens to have a penis and her mother isn't allowed in that bathroom with her.
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Post by Jason on Apr 14, 2016 18:02:31 GMT -5
It isn't a fear tactic. Perverted men have been doing this for many years, long before this meteoric rise of "transgender equality" took place. It will become a problem. yeah, everything can be taken advantage of or misused. you don't punish everyone for the criminals and fucked up people. I'm sure all 20 transgender people in North Carolina are entirely grateful for Bruce Springsteen canceling a concert for their benefit.
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Post by Jason on Apr 14, 2016 18:04:20 GMT -5
Not true. Little boys are generally with their dads in the bathroom. Little girls are generally with their moms in the bathroom. Who is more defenseless?the little girl who was born with male DNA and now has to use the restroom, dressed as a girl because that's what gender she identifies with, because she happens to have a penis and her mother isn't allowed in that bathroom with her. wat? You mean the little boy who was born with male DNA.
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Post by Jason on Apr 14, 2016 18:06:59 GMT -5
Pretty soon going to the bathroom will be like flying, where we have to go through a scanner where it sees what we're packing before you can enter. Non-transgendered Asian men who just want to use the men's bathroom are going to be screwed. Lol. Speaking of asians, I admire the hell out of them. As far as race goes, they get the brunt of shit and get made fun of the most. Tiny penis, can't drive, etc... You don't see them getting involved in this giant race war.
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Post by zombie on Apr 14, 2016 18:07:04 GMT -5
yeah, everything can be taken advantage of or misused. you don't punish everyone for the criminals and fucked up people. I'm sure all 20 transgender people in North Carolina are entirely grateful for Bruce Springsteen canceling a concert for their benefit. are we discussing bruce springsteen's choice as a performer, or the rights of transgender people? defending one does not mean you are defending the other, necessarily.
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Post by Reign in Blood on Apr 14, 2016 18:07:37 GMT -5
Not true. Little boys are generally with their dads in the bathroom. Little girls are generally with their moms in the bathroom. Who is more defenseless?the little girl who was born with male DNA and now has to use the restroom, dressed as a girl because that's what gender she identifies with, because she happens to have a penis and her mother isn't allowed in that bathroom with her. Most guys don't give a shit if a girl uses our bathroom, happens all the time at bars, so by all means let the mother in. Plus when the little girl starts peeing at the urinal standing up, you're probably gonna get some guys leaving as quick as possible anyhow.
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Post by Dream on Apr 14, 2016 18:07:57 GMT -5
truth be told though. If I had a transgendered kid under 18 and they had to go to the bathroom of their birth sex because of some fucked up and unnecessary law, I'd be going into that same bathroom with them until they were an adult or I got arrested. I don't get the need for the law either way, just fucking go to the bathroom where you blend in better. If you pass as a guy, go to the mens room, if you pass as a girl go to the womens room. If you don't pass as either, find a single stall and go there (my personal preference, cause who the fuck wants to share a bathroom to piss in with anyone?) while gender identity has no bearing on sexuality. I would be more comfortable with a male transitioning to female in the womens room than I would be with a female transitioning to male.
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