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Post by Jason on Apr 19, 2017 0:44:09 GMT -5
Should I believe you or a highly respected front office guy who works under Andrew Friedman concerning a baseball team's operations? Honestly. I would say me, if that guy's the one feeding you those weird claims.
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Post by Jason on Apr 19, 2017 0:45:46 GMT -5
You're also really coming across as that fan who is an absolute dick to everyone who doesn't watch every game every day apparently. "You're not a REAL fan" and the like. You treat it like a badge of honor that 90% of us can't sit at home and watch games every day. Congrats. You're not special for wasting more of your summer than me, dude. You don't get to act like an elitist and you don't win any awards for watching more games than anyone. And now you're doing that thing where you take it personally and read WAY too much into a sports discussion.
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Post by Headhunter on Apr 19, 2017 0:46:48 GMT -5
Player rankings are subjective, but 99% of us disagree with you. Who cares about that though? You openly believe things that aren't true that I have both more means to know about and clearly more interest in acknowledging. What am I supposed to say when I know for a fact that these metrics are not only incorporated into but are the foundation of their analytical departments and you tell me it isn't true? I mean, what the hell? You're changing your story now. You went from WAR being a make-or-break scenario in negotiating a contract, now all of a sudden you're backing up and saying the metric is only used in analytic departments, while conveniently leaving out the degree of importance. No, i'm not changing my story. I NEVER said it was the make or break, look back and actually fucking read. I said it often sets the parameters aka creates a ballpark range for negotiations to be worked from. I also never said it was only used in analytical departments either. Stop misrepresenting every thing I write.
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Post by Jason on Apr 19, 2017 0:54:57 GMT -5
You're changing your story now. You went from WAR being a make-or-break scenario in negotiating a contract, now all of a sudden you're backing up and saying the metric is only used in analytic departments, while conveniently leaving out the degree of importance. No, i'm not changing my story. I NEVER said it was the make or break, look back and actually fucking read. Ok. I think you believe that WAR plays some huge significant role in negotiations and signing contracts No, I know this for a fact. So, officially, just so we're clear since we're being nitpicky now, you went from "WAR plays a huge significant role in negotiationg and signing contracts" to "it creates a ballpark range for negotiations to be worked from".
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Post by Headhunter on Apr 19, 2017 0:56:25 GMT -5
Should I believe you or a highly respected front office guy who works under Andrew Friedman concerning a baseball team's operations? Honestly. I would say me, if that guy's the one feeding you those weird claims. I'm beyond sick of your disrespect.
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Post by Headhunter on Apr 19, 2017 0:57:09 GMT -5
No, i'm not changing my story. I NEVER said it was the make or break, look back and actually fucking read. Ok. No, I know this for a fact. Congrats, you don't know how to read. Significant yes. Make or break no. Do better next time, okay?
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Post by Headhunter on Apr 19, 2017 0:58:09 GMT -5
No, i'm not changing my story. I NEVER said it was the make or break, look back and actually fucking read. Ok. No, I know this for a fact. So, officially, just so we're clear since we're being nitpicky now, you went from "WAR plays a huge significant role in negotiationg and signing contracts" to "it creates a ballpark range for negotiations to be worked from". Not mutually exclusive, dummy.
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Post by Jason on Apr 19, 2017 1:01:50 GMT -5
I would say me, if that guy's the one feeding you those weird claims. I'm beyond sick of your disrespect. lol. Please relax. We're discussing a petty sports stat, which is literally defined by sabermetrics as "an attempt to summarize a player's total contributions to their team". You buy into it, you think (or claim to know) that every single team in the MLB also buys into it and put a shit load of their stock into a stat that is defined as an attempt to create a stat. I do not.
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Post by Headhunter on Apr 19, 2017 1:11:37 GMT -5
I'm beyond sick of your disrespect. lol. Please relax. We're discussing a petty sports stat, which is literally defined by sabermetrics as "an attempt to summarize a player's total contributions to their team". You buy into it, you think (or claim to know) that every single team in the MLB also buys into it and put a shit load of their stock into a stat that is defined as an attempt to create a stat. I do not. Why don't you man up and directly call me a liar? Don't tip toe around questioning my integrity, just do it.
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Post by Headhunter on Apr 19, 2017 1:13:00 GMT -5
Because I'm not guessing and it isn't an opinion. So don't tell me I'm misinformed, either call me a liar or be a little more flexible in your assertions.
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Post by Jason on Apr 19, 2017 1:29:49 GMT -5
lol. Please relax. We're discussing a petty sports stat, which is literally defined by sabermetrics as "an attempt to summarize a player's total contributions to their team". You buy into it, you think (or claim to know) that every single team in the MLB also buys into it and put a shit load of their stock into a stat that is defined as an attempt to create a stat. I do not. Why don't you man up and directly call me a liar? Don't tip toe around questioning my integrity, just do it. You are clearly worked up. I will concede. I am the liar. Goodnight.
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Post by Headhunter on Apr 19, 2017 1:32:01 GMT -5
Why don't you man up and directly call me a liar? Don't tip toe around questioning my integrity, just do it. You are clearly worked up. I will concede. I am the liar. Goodnight. Bullshit. Too late to pull that card and I'm not even upset. I just want you to man up and stop tip-toeing around the obvious here. You either think I'm a liar or you are wrong, but there is no gray area. Don't brush it off now, we've been at it for hours.
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Post by Jason on Apr 19, 2017 1:41:38 GMT -5
Either you're the liar or I am wrong? Fine. I AM WRONG. Goodnight.
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Post by Headhunter on Apr 19, 2017 1:46:29 GMT -5
How many other things that actually exist would you be willing to deny the existence of in a four page argument? Fucking hell.
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Post by Jason on Apr 19, 2017 1:51:34 GMT -5
{JFK Assassination}There was no magic bullet.
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Post by Sebastian Taro Groth on Apr 19, 2017 6:37:46 GMT -5
It'd be a win if we could replace this thread with quality posts. That's up the WAR ratings for HMF.
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Post by Reign in Blood on Apr 19, 2017 10:56:42 GMT -5
The vitriol was good, if they would just cut out all that lame ass WAR, RBI, BA, lightsaber etc. nerd talk.
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Post by Jason on Apr 19, 2017 12:43:56 GMT -5
Back-to-back quality zingers.
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Post by Jason on Apr 20, 2017 2:45:41 GMT -5
Enjoyed the game, made it out alive. I was surprised at how quiet the stadium was until the 7th or 8th inning when the titantron told the crowd to get loud. People genuinely didn't give a shit about the game. lol. Dodger fans were pretty cool entering and exiting the stadium. Playful heckling between a few of us, here and there. It wasn't until I got in the car and started to head home that the vaginas started showing their ugly mugs. I've got a couple of Rockies stickers in the back, and people noticed it driving past me as we exited the stadium. A bunch of different cars would swerve into my lane and act like they were trying to run me off the road. Most of them would roll down their window and hang out of their car and say "Hey, Fuck the Rockies". To which I'd respond "First place, bitch!" Same old song and dance with another group of people. Passenger to my right was hanging out the window flinging the same slurs, and I'd respond the same way. Childish banter. We ended up stopped right next to each other in traffic so they couldn't drive away and he ended up responding to my first place jab. "When was the last time you went to the World Series, motherfucker?" I proceeded to annihilate the idiot. "2007. What about you? 1988, bitch! You weren't even alive." Long pause... "Fuck the Rockies". I win.
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Post by J-Mac Attack on Apr 20, 2017 19:05:37 GMT -5
Too late for me to comment, but I am with Jason on this. I bet Omar Vizuel saved 2 runs every fucking time I watched him. That dude was amazing to watch.
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